Can’t Help the Poor by Destroying the Rich

090818 at 10:41 pm 16 comments

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves.

-  Abraham Lincoln

also attributed to Reverend William John Henry Boetcker

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  • 1. jcscuba  |  090819 at 10:18 am

    Sure you can. All it takes is a zero understanding of geo-politics and Econ 101. If anybody could pass the Econ test they should be kicked out of the Democratic Party.

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    • 2. hepsy  |  090820 at 8:57 am

      You’re suggesting Lincoln didn’t foresee what would be the democrat party:)

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  • 3. RMS3  |  090924 at 9:55 am

    Lincoln did not say these words. They are commonly misattributed to him. This quote is from Rev J H Boetcker in 1916.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker

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    • 4. hepsy  |  090924 at 10:35 am

      Mahalo for the input! I wasn’t there when the words were first said, whether as attributed to Lincoln in quotation collections, or as penned by Reverend William John Henry Boetcker (1873–1962) in his 1942 publication, “Lincoln On Limitations.” Either way, the quote is still good.
      (For you, I’ve included Boetcker.)
      -aloha!

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  • 5. Ingrid  |  091002 at 1:09 am

    You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

    But the Bible says that the rich should help the poor.

    Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Matthew 19:21-22.

    You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.

    But the Bible says: The strong are condemned by failing to help the weak.

    Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ Matthew 25: 41-43.

    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    But the Bible says you should not bring about your prosperity by taking from the poor.

    [T]he rich man refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare a meal for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the ewe lamb that belonged to the poor man and prepared it for the one who had come to him.” 5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the LORD lives, the man who did this deserves to die! 2 Samuel: 4-5.

    You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.

    But the Bible teaches how wage payers are to deal with wage earners.

    14 Do not take advantage of a hired man who is poor and needy, whether he is a brother Israelite or an alien living in one of your towns. 15 Pay him his wages each day before sunset, because he is poor and is counting on it. Otherwise he may cry to the LORD against you, and you will be guilty of sin. Deuteronomy 24: 14-15.

    You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.

    The Bible says you should not incite class hatred by abusing the poor among us.

    5Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong? James 2: 5-7.

    You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men’s initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

    The Bible says that you can build your character and courage by doing for men what they cannot do for themselves. To keep your wealth to yourselves because “the poor need to develop character and courage” is an excuse to be greedy.

    “Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’” Matthew 25: 34-36.

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    • 6. Bruce  |  091121 at 9:31 am

      Okay. So the bible says the rich should help the poor. Does it say governments should force that to happen? Force means if you don’t do what they say, they will make bad things happen to you. Do you favor that? I don’t see the bible as a manifesto for tyranny.

      Capitalism has enriched the world like no other system. It has enabled people of all backgrounds to earn wealth. Much of this wealth finds its way back to society through employment and giving through foundations.

      Socialism, if you think that is what the bible preaches, only spreads poverty.

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      • 7. hepsy  |  091121 at 11:12 am

        You’re right, the Bible is not a manifesto for either tyranny or socialism. If you read the account of why the first Jewish King was crowned, and events preceding, you may recognize the concept behind the founding of US.
        Actually, the Bible does not say the rich should help the poor, rather we should all help each other. In other words, the poor are to do to others as they would have done unto them. (The rich, too, but the rich are too often egocentric and greedy, and act that way towards others. :( )
        It is the religion preached in many churches that confuses the instruction of the Bible, the instruction of the First and the New Testaments, with the instruction of the churches. It is the religion preached in many churches that also confuses Biblically recorded events and customs, with Biblical instruction.

        mahalo for your comment!
        -aloha

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        • 8. Sumita  |  100120 at 6:22 pm

          Cant pick and choose. If the Bible says only a man and a woman should be married, and the government says this must be so, then the government also must say that the rich should help the poor.

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          • 9. hepsy  |  100120 at 7:08 pm

            Because the Bible says a man and a woman should be married, then a government must say the rich should help the poor?

            What is the basis for your statement? You name two different authorities, two different ideas, one from the Bible and the other from… what? What do you say is the common element?

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  • 10. John  |  091028 at 4:59 am

    I suspect that Lincoln did not foresee what would become of his Republican Party. Hepsy, and others, do you seriously think that today’s GOP carries on the spirit of Lincoln? The Democratic party of the time was the party of the South, slavery, and later, segregation, big city machines, and labor. Surely you know that and know how the two major parties have evolved over the last 144 years. Some things change; some stay the same.

    Everyone, please stop attributing this bit of stuff to Lincoln; he deserves better. It’s notorious, and I can’t believe that anyone is not aware of the situation; what cave have you been in? Furthermore, if you know Lincoln at all, you’ll immediately see that it no more sounds like Lincoln than it sounds like Shakespeare or the Bible.

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    • 11. hepsy  |  091028 at 1:41 pm

      Does the GOP carry the spirit of Lincoln? Not so much as it could, but better than some other political parties (i.e., Democratic, Socialist, Green) perhaps less than others (i.e., Modern Whig, Constitutionalist, Libertarian)
      Although the quote evokes more of Ben Franklin than Abe Lincoln, the logic of the sentiment is worth attention, regardless of who originally said it.
      mahalo for your comment.
      aloha!

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      • 12. PJ  |  091109 at 9:25 am

        THIS IS NOT AN ABRAHAM LINCOLN QUOTATION; check Snopes.com
        It is improperly attributed to Lincoln who was of a very different Republican Party.
        Be wary of falsely attributed quotations. Aloha

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        • 13. hepsy  |  091109 at 1:27 pm

          Thank you for the reference.
          It was a disappointment when the people behind snopes.com were exposed. Now, I look for more credible source and much prefer older books of quotations than Internet quotation compilations. The Internet is rife with quotes attributed to various people. This appears to be one, a single quotation attributed to numerous authors.
          mahalo for your comment!
          aloha

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      • 14. jay  |  130521 at 12:00 pm

        You’re right I would much rather be a part of the Democrats, bugging the IRS and Fox news, killing millions of babies yearly, Benghazi, wire tapping the Ap…..and lying about Obamacare (up to 4 trillion)…..

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  • 15. Chris  |  101114 at 5:33 pm

    Of course Lincoln never said these words. They are not even an accurate quote from Boetcker who penned them in 1942. He never even said they were from Lincoln but did have a Lincoln quote in the same pamphlet titled “Lincoln on Limitations”

    If you don’t like “Snopes” (and there has been nothing factual that has ‘exposed’ them except allegation by some who don’t like being caught in their half-truths) Try factcheck.org. It looks at the dishonesty of both sides in politics so beware!

    aloha

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  • 16. source  |  120526 at 1:59 pm

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